I would move superscript to the core standard, especially since there's already an XHTML tag for this. Quite handy for formulas if you don't want to (or can't) use something else like embedding MathML or similar. -- MarioLenz
We need to decide if this markup should behave the same as other inline markup and not require closing tokens. Perhaps it would make more sense if unclosed markup extended to the end of the word rather than the whole paragraph.
StephenDay 15 April 2009
Creole is not supposed to be "fancier (X)HTML", it has a different scope and different use cases. I don't think that including markup for all possible HTML tags is wise, as well as refraining from including some markup just because it doesn't have a corresponding HTML tag. I do think there should be a standard way of representing the formulas -- probably some small subset of LaTeX, as it's already the standard -- and that those should be rendered wholly -- by the wiki engines that have technical means to do so -- or partially -- for example using the aforementioned HTML tags. But I really think there should be one way to mark up a formula, not three ways differing merely in power and portability. -- RadomirDopieralski 2009-04-16 18:19:51
I don't agree. "Cover the common things people need" is given as one of the "Original Possible Goals" for Creole. Superscript and subscript are quite common and not only used in "real" formulas. Besides: I think that LaTeX would be overkill for the vast majority of formulas. I just don't think it's feasible to learn it for something simple like "1 KiB is 2 to the power of 10 bytes". -- MarioLenz 2009-04-17 07:19:11
You don't have to learn it whole. It's just something like $$H_{2}O$$ or $$15^{30}$$ if you just need it for superscript/subscript. Sure, the $ signs add some extra overhead, but they also let you add more markup as needed and avoid conflicts with any existing or future markup. -- RadomirDopieralski 2009-04-17 07:36:40
OK, you're probably right. That looks simple enough, plus: you can build on it if your formulars increase in complexity. I've read your notes for a proposition to include a simple markup for formulas and think your approach is superior. But the ^^superscript^^ and ,,subscript,, additions should be removed completely in that case.
Btw: Where does Creole reserve double dollar signs $$ ... $$ for formulas? I found it neither in the final v1.0 spec nor in the additions. -- MarioLenz 2009-04-17 18:07:49
"It's just something like $$H_{2}O$$": this will display H and O in italic. I'd rather keep ^^ and __ and add $$ with a subset of LaTeX. -- YvesPiguet 2009-04-30 23:49:00
I've just been trying to explain about a suggestion to add standard markup for footnotes and references and I can't believe this is not part of the standard. There's no question that ^^superscipt^^ should work.